$0 Down Probate

We are so excited to introduce our $0 down probate program to Riverside County Executors. This means that you can be represented by an experienced probate attorney without paying any attorney's fees upfront. We don't get paid until it's time to disperse funds. At that time we will charge the estate the statutory attorney's fees that are set out in the probate code. This means that you do not have to find fees out of your own pocket to administer the estate. We will wait to get our fees when the estate is in a position to pay for those fees itself. If you are as excited as we are, call us now at (951)304-3431 and we can start the process today by scheduling an initial gathering phone call with a probate paralegal who will gather all the information the attorney needs to get your case started now.  

What is Probate?

Probate is essentially the court process that returns property back to the land of the living. A lot of people think that Probate is a tax. There are taxes that may come due at death, but this is a completely separate issue, (you can find out more about taxes at death here). If you do nothing to plan your estate, the court may get involved in implementing a plan that the State of California has for you.

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My loved one recently passed, do I have to go to Probate Court?

The short answer is: it depends. The first thing to understand is that the court looks just at the "estate" that your loved one left when they passed away. To determine what is actually in your loved one's estate, you have to understand the four ways to pass property at death: (1) by Joint Tenancy, (2) by Contract, (3) through Trust and (4) through your Estate. 

Joint Tenancy

One way that many pass property is by Joint Tenancy. The full name is actually Joint Tenancy with Right of Survivorship. When you hold property as Joint Tenants, and a Tenant (one of the owners) Passes, the property automatically transfers to the surviving tenants without any probate court involvement. Now, before you run out to your county recorder's office to change your title right away, you should know that there are very serious ramifications to holding property this way. Find out more here. For our purposes though, this property will not have to go through the probate process. 

By Contract

The second way to pass property is through a Contract. What I mean by "contract" is an agreement that you entered into with the custodians of your property. This contract is often referred to as a Beneficiary Designation, a Transfer on Death Designation, or a Payable on Death Designation. These are all basically contracts that you have made with the financial institutions. You will entrust your assets with them to be invested and in exchange when you pass away those assets will go to your loved ones. There are also serious limitations to passing your property this was too and you can find out more about this here. Again, for our purposes, this property will not have to go through the probate process. 

Through Trust

If your loved one's property is held in a Trust, whether it is a Revocable Trust or an Irrevocable Trust, this property will not have to pass through the probate process. However, just because the Trust document says the property is in the trust does not make it so. If the title to the property (Deeds for houses, designations for other assets, etc) does not say the property is in the Trust, it is not in the Trust. This is the preferred method to hold property and for a discussion on this topic, go here. For our purposes, if the Title of the property was transferred into the name of a Trust, the property will not have to go through the Probate Process. 

Through Estate

Finally, if the property was not passed in any of the above methods, the property is in the estate, which is the jurisdiction of the Probate Court.  

My Loved One, has Very Little Property, Do I still have to go To Probate Court?

Maybe not. If your loved one had less than $150,000 in their Gross Estate, then you may be able to use a much less burdensome process than full formal probate. But, you have to read that sentence again. The court is looking at GROSS estate. This means that the court pretends like your loved one has no debt (this includes mortgages). So, if you are thinking that your loved one had less than $150,000 because they had a $300,000 home with a $200,000 mortgage, you would be right that they have less than $150,000 in equity, but they have more than $150,000 in gross estate because the gross estate is the fair market value of the house at the time that your loved one passed away.  

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Great News! My Loved One had Under $150,000, What Now?

You never thought that you would be happy that your uncle left you so little. Jokes aside, if your loved one did leave less than $150,000 you can use what is called a small probate affidavit to get property from banks and other financial institutions. These institutions are sometimes hesitant to hand over the assets because all they have to go on is the affidavit, but legally that is technically all you need. Click the PDF icon here to get the document for yourself.

Looks like my Loved One had more than $150,000 in Countable Assets, How Much Will This Cost?

The Probate Code Specifies how much an attorney can charge to take on a case like this. The amount is based on the value of the gross estate at the time your loved one passed. If you give a guess as to what the property would sell for that will suffice to predict the amount the attorney will get paid. According to California Probate Code 10810, the attorney will be paid 4% of the first $100,000, or $4,000 to guide you through the Probate Process. Then 3% of the next $100,000 of the estate or $3,000. Next, the code sets the fee at 2% up until you hit $1 million.

For example, your loved one owned a $500,000 home with a $400,000 mortgage on the property. Let's say that this is the only piece of property that will have to be probated. The attorney will get paid as follows:

4% of the first  $100,000 =   $4,000

3% of the next  $100,000 =   $3,000

2% on the next $300,000 =   $6,000

The total attorney fees    = $13,000

This is not the end of the fees. If your case requires a professional executor, which happens fairly regularly in Probate Court, you can double the amount that is paid to the attorney. Now the total fee is at $26,000. There may also be fees for securing a bond, which is also dependent upon the fair market value of the estate. Tack another $2,000-ish onto this for court fees, and publication fees, etc. Now you have a case that will cost $28,000+ if no one fights. The problem with court is that when someone gets into the court, they like to fight (I don't know if this is a result of the fact that Law and Order can be found on at least one station any time, day or night).

What's the Process of Probate Like?

If no one fights the full process can take anywhere between 9-12 months depending on how backed up the court is. Riverside County Court is typically faster than say San Diego or Los Angeles County, but 9- 12 months is a good rough estimate. At our offide we break the process down into 7 distinct parts: (1) Get Power (2) Notify Everyone (3) Marshal Assets (4) Satisfy Debts (5) Let the Court Check Your Work (6) Distribute (7) Wrap up

Step 1: Get Power

In this phase of the process you petition (which is the legalese word for beg) the court to have the power to take over your loved one's estate. There is a multi-document packet that you file with the court to get the ball rolling. You can find the documents for any of the local courts here: Riverside County, San Diego County, Orange County, Los Angeles County. Once you have filed the required documents for the correct county, you will get a court date. When you have a court date, you are required to notify all of the possible heirs (legalese for family members) that might receive something from the estate along with everyone else. The way you notify "everyone else" is by listing the legal proceeding in a newspaper (I know, its outdated, but that is the requirement of California Law). Then you wait for the court date. If you got everything right in your paperwork, you will get an order from the court saying you are in charge of the estate. Now you have a fiduciary duty to the beneficiaries of the estate (which is legalese for "if you screw up you can get sued personally"). 

Step 2: Notify Everyone

Now that you are in charge you have to tell everyone "Hey, I'm in charge!" There are some state agencies that you have to notify. Also, this is the time that you notify any known creditors to file a claim. 

Step 3: Marshal Assets

So, after you are in charge and everyone knows that you are in charge you can begin to "marshal assets," which means that you actually take control. You have to file something with the county recorder's office for any real property, which notifies that county recorder that you are able to liquidate the property if necessary (usually you do have to liquidate property as part of your duty).Included in this step, is getting all the property appraised by the Probate Referee, who is a property appraiser appointed by the court. 

Step 4: Satisfy Debts

You now have control over all of the assets and you have told everyone that your loved one has passed. Now it is time to pay debts and final expenses. This step is pretty straight forward because unfortunately you, like everyone else, probably have a lot of practice paying bills. Some creditors, you will find, will not even attempt to collect because they may not even file a claim. If this is the case, it is probably because your creditor has a life insurance policy in place so that they do not have to go through the trouble or expense of hiring lawyers to chase the debts in court. 

Step 5: Let the Court Check Your Work

Now that you have jumped through all of the hoops required of you in probate court, you will now be required to submit your work to the court in what the court calls a "Final Accounting." Don't be deceived by the fact that it is called a final accounting, it is not all about numbers. You are accounting to the court that you have checked all the legal boxes necessary AND you are showing the court the numbers. Hopefully the court says that you have done well and you can move onto the next step. If you have not done everything required of you, whether you were informed about the requirements or not, you will be forced to return to court again and again until you have completed all that is required of you.

Step 6: Distribute

Now that you have done all of the work and the court has approved your work, you are now allowed to distribute the funds. You get signed receipts from all of the parties saying that you have distributed, as you were told to do by the court.

Step 7: Wrap Up

The day has come that you can submit your receipts to the court and the court will release you from your fiduciary duty (remember, that's legalese for "if you screw up, you can be sued personally") and you can move on with life. 

The death of a loved one is a very stressful time. Most people do not want to add the stress of taking on a difficult court process along with the stress of maneuvering with the loved one's financial life. This is why we, as a part of our pledge to create peace through the use of law, have devoted a part of our practice to helping people through this difficult time. We do so with love, compassion and understanding. If you call our office, you will find that we have caring staff and attorneys. For no obligation, we will help you begin to gather your loved one's estate and have a consultation with you to discuss what to expect. Also, we take our statutory fees at the end of the case (in the Step 6: Distribute phase) so you do not have to pay attorneys fees up front. 

I would like a complimentary paralegal to talk to me about gathering my loved one's estate. 

29970 Technology Drive, Suite 217

Murrieta, CA 92563

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Tel: 951-304-3431

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